Pine Mountain Lodge Camp

Date	Surveyor	Water Report
06-02-2024	Jimmy Cooper	Trickle
05-19-2024	Sandy S	Flowing
10-07-2023	Marcus I	Trickle
06-18-2022	Rino B	Dry
06-13-2022	Paul Cronshaw	Trickle
05-14-2022	wsizoo	Flowing
04-09-2022	Scott Williams	Flowing
03-11-2022	wsizoo	Flowing
10-26-2021	Matt C	Trickle
10-09-2021	Adam Donald	Stagnant
06-19-2021	Braulio Aguilera	Trickle
05-31-2021	Anonymous Surveyor	Trickle
05-03-2021	Anonymous Surveyor	Flowing
04-19-2021	Tom Fritz	Flowing
02-14-2021	Simas	Flowing
11-26-2020	Jesse Rodriguez	Trickle
11-26-2020	Antonio Calderon	Flowing
11-21-2020	Shaddus Maximus	Trickle
10-30-2020	TM	Trickle
07-31-2020	John Doe	Trickle
06-27-2020	Erin Swenson-Healey	Trickle
05-04-2020	Addison Jerlow	Flowing
04-19-2020	Jonathan Rocque	Flowing
02-28-2020	Michael Foster	Flowing
10-19-2019	Everett Amburn	Trickle
07-02-2019	Anonymous Surveyor	Trickle
06-22-2019	SespeJesse	Trickle
05-12-2019	Christopher P. Lord	Flowing
05-08-2019	David Cairngorm	Flowing
04-20-2019	Tom Marsh	Flowing
10-14-2018	Christopher P. Lord	Trickle
09-29-2018	Jurij Solovij	Flowing
05-26-2018	Bardley	Flowing
11-24-2017	Jason Samuels	Trickle
11-21-2017	Chris Pechous	Trickle
11-11-2017	Anonymous Surveyor	Trickle
09-16-2017	Chris Pechous	Trickle
07-24-2017	Erico	Trickle
06-29-2017	larry frassoldati	Flowing
06-26-2017	Craig R. Carey	Trickle
05-24-2017	bardley	Flowing
04-22-2017	S. Sampson	Flowing
02-13-2017	Los Padres Forest Association	Flowing
11-06-2016	James Wapotich	Trickle
10-30-2016	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
10-17-2016	Eldon Walker	Trickle
09-10-2016	M Subbotin	Trickle
08-22-2016	Ken Wickersham	Flowing
06-16-2016	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
05-28-2016	Philip E. Ankrom	Trickle
05-02-2016	Yellow Mantis	Trickle
04-23-2016	Scott Williams	Flowing
03-28-2016	Shaddus Maximus	Flowing
01-30-2016	Howard Cohen	Flowing
01-02-2016	Michael S	Trickle
11-09-2015	P. Schou	Trickle
08-13-2015	Yamato	Trickle
05-22-2015	Philip Ankrom	Trickle
05-16-2015	Jeremiah Swider	Trickle
05-09-2015	Arnold Levin	Trickle
02-14-2015	Aaron and Tom Songer	Flowing
01-22-2015	Los Padres Forest Association	Flowing
11-16-2014	John Spiegel	Trickle
10-29-2014	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
10-01-2014	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
08-04-2014	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
05-24-2014	Los Padres Forest Association	Flowing
01-10-2014	M. Jones	Flowing
04-15-2010	Bryan Conant	Flowing
01-01-2010	Los Padres Forest Association	Trickle
10-8-2021	Adam Donald	Stagnant

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-02-2024 - by Jimmy Cooper

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-02-2024
Surveyor Name:	Jimmy Cooper
Camp Description:	Upper Camp is non existent, completely grown over. The bottom camp is beautiful as always. The table is in very poor shape and is no longer functional.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Quality was fine
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-19-2024 - by Sandy S

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-19-2024
Surveyor Name:	Sandy S
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:
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Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-07-2023 - by Marcus I

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-07-2023
Surveyor Name:	Marcus I
Camp Description:	Hiked up here suspecting there would still be water and luckily it didnt disappoint! Nice cold, clean water is flowing in the main stream near the East camp with the 4 fire pits. Follow it upstream and there is one large, clear pool with a tiny waterfall feeding it. If you collect the water straight from the fall its super clean tasting. If you are lazy it may be more Tanic from the leaves in the pools. The stream near the West camp has water, but is skanky. Its worth the 1/3 mile walk to the clean pool IMO. Flow is good. Stronger than a trickle. probably 1-2GPM. My guess is this flows all year till the rains. Note for future people - last winter had crazy rains and lots of snow. On consecutive drought years the stream has been dry by mid-summer. Low was 40, High of 70. Went from Cedar Creek to PML. This is one of the most beatiful routes in the eastern los padres if you like the ridge-top landscape of huge rocks with mature pines and scrub brush. From the ridge at west PML camp, you can see down to Piedra Blanca and out to the ocean on a clear day. If you know where to look, there is a petroglyph up here too. Trail is in good condition, but the last descent into PML is very steep. About 8 miles and 1700 vertical from Cedar Creek parking lot to PML.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Nice cold, clean water flowing right next to the trail camp.
Weather Conditions:	Mostly sunny. 40 low, 70 shade high, 80 sun high

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-18-2022 - by Rino B

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-18-2022
Surveyor Name:	Rino B
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Dry
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-13-2022 - by Paul Cronshaw

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-13-2022
Surveyor Name:	Paul Cronshaw
Camp Description:	Visited the two campsites (upper and lower) at this camp for a relaxing break The upper campsite was across the creek from a new sign. Only one of the 4 fire rings is being used. Water was accessed by a social trail that goes upstream to an alder grove. The lower campsite has better tent sites. A spur trail starts at an old sign with camps and mileages on both sides and goes 0.1 mile west. There is a table and a fire shovel. It has a rare fully functional ice can stove. There was no water in the creek.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Trickle with pools above the upper camp in alder grove.
Weather Conditions:	Lower 80s and Sunny with some wind
Images:	Upper campsite near new sign Water source is above camp via a social trail into alder grove Lower Campsite with table and shovel Dry creek at lower campsite

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-14-2022 - by wsizoo

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-14-2022
Surveyor Name:	wsizoo
Camp Description:	Ladybugs were flying around everywhere.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Flowing by the spring above the upper camp
Weather Conditions:	90+

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-09-2022 - by Scott Williams

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-09-2022
Surveyor Name:	Scott Williams
Camp Description:	Lower camp is so much nicer than the upper camp. 34.61498, -119.17980
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Good flow at upper camp. Stagnant at lower camp. Above and below lower camp is flowing water. Good quality
Weather Conditions:	70 and windy!
Images:	Lower camp 34.61498, -119.17980

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 03-11-2022 - by wsizoo

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	03-11-2022
Surveyor Name:	wsizoo
Camp Description:	Camp is in good condition, but there are a few dead trees close by. Temperatures dropped down to 22f during the night, and the wind picked up, but the camp is very protected. It was almost dead quiet at night, but in the morning we started to hear birds and some howls. Perfect time to go.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Spring was flowing up the trail, nice scoop points in the rocky sections
Weather Conditions:	20s-70s

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-26-2021 - by Matt C

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-26-2021
Surveyor Name:	Matt C
Camp Description:	We were there briefly right after the rain. Found the upper site fire rings I believe but didn't find the picnic table in the photos. We will have to go back and search again some time. Very windy on the hike up but the camp area was very sheltered.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Some flow, tastes like dirt so we filtered and boiled and had no issues
Weather Conditions:	Ground froze over night. Sunny but cold in the morning.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-09-2021 - by Adam Donald

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-09-2021
Surveyor Name:	Adam Donald
Camp Description:	Lots of yellow jackets in the camp
Water Source:	Stagnant
Water Source Details:	Very little water
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-19-2021 - by Braulio Aguilera

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-19-2021
Surveyor Name:	Braulio Aguilera
Camp Description:	From Twin Forks Camp to Pine Mountain Lodge Camp is about 3 miles and somewhere around 2500 to 3000 feet of elevation gain. Trail is very exposed in parts and completely uphill on the way there. On warm days it’s better and safer to do the hike in the evening so you get more shade. There’s water from Piedra Blanca camp and further upstream along the canyon but not for very far. You’ll have to carry water or wait until you reach the spring at Pine Mountain. Be bear aware, I spotted some bear prints and droppings. Trail is in typical Los Padres conditions, not terribly overgrown and manageable.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Only a small trickle. Stagnant in places, but there are small waterfalls where it flows nicely. Tasted great
Weather Conditions:	Much cooler than piedra blanca

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-31-2021 - by Anonymous Surveyor

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-31-2021
Surveyor Name:	Anonymous Surveyor
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Stagnant pools in the meadow and at the camp crossing. Take small trail up the creek, and you can find a rock face to capture the water on. Water was cold and tasted great.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-03-2021 - by Anonymous Surveyor

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-03-2021
Surveyor Name:	Anonymous Surveyor
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-19-2021 - by Tom Fritz

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-19-2021
Surveyor Name:	Tom Fritz
Camp Description:	Passed through camp on way down to Piedra Blanca on 4/16 (where there was a CCC trail crew), and on the way back to Reyes Creek TH on my Sespe Loop. The camp itself is clean and orderly. The water is flowing very slowly at the camp where the cabin site was. If you go to the "other" camp (the one with the picnic table and ice can stove), go downstream a little and you'll find it flowing a little better. Although I didn't spend the night in either, both campsites are in good shape.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Flowing, but slow and low
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 02-14-2021 - by Simas

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	02-14-2021
Surveyor Name:	Simas
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	There was also patchy snow all around.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-26-2020 - by Jesse Rodriguez

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-26-2020
Surveyor Name:	Jesse Rodriguez
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-26-2020 - by Antonio Calderon

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-26-2020
Surveyor Name:	Antonio Calderon
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:	Windy 55F
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-21-2020 - by Shaddus Maximus

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-21-2020
Surveyor Name:	Shaddus Maximus
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Clear pools just below camp
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-30-2020 - by TM

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-30-2020
Surveyor Name:	TM
Camp Description:	Lots of great camp sites, stayed just down the trail from actual Pine Mtn. Lodge. Lots of great spots, and no people. Challenging overgrown trail to reach here.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Water in the creek right next to Pine MTN Lodge was maybe ankle deep, very slow/no flow but looked clear and clean.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 07-31-2020 - by John Doe

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	07-31-2020
Surveyor Name:	John Doe
Camp Description:	Several sites are in good shape, trail from rose valley is much less overgrown than it was a few months ago.Â Near the shady guerrilla site uphill from the spot with the table, I encountered a big mess of balloons about 20ft up in a tree, I got the majority down but a few remain that were no match for my big stick. N 34.61426 W 119.17797 If you hate trash, enjoy a challenge, and need an excuse to come up here, this is it.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Small, stagnant, scummy puddles by the lower sites. Use trail just before official site leads to clear pools below the spring
Weather Conditions:	Clear, 70s/80s in the pm and 40s w/ dew in the am
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-27-2020 - by Erin Swenson-Healey

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-27-2020
Surveyor Name:	Erin Swenson-Healey
Camp Description:	The hike up from Piedra Blanca was brutal (exposed in most places, overgrown with thorns in others), but the views from the top and the breeze was quite nice. You should be in good physical condition if you're going to hike up that hill. We camped at the guerilla site immediately to the south of the trail as it crests and makes its way onto the flats. The other, official site (below, near the spring) was open and in good condition. Our hike from Pine Mountain Lodge to 3 Mile Camp involved a lot of bushwhacking, but we had a good time.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	water in the creek was at a trickle - did not search out the spring itself
Weather Conditions:	75F and a little windy
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-04-2020 - by Addison Jerlow

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-04-2020
Surveyor Name:	Addison Jerlow
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	spring north of camp flowing well
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-19-2020 - by Jonathan Rocque

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-19-2020
Surveyor Name:	Jonathan Rocque
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Good water flow on the way to Cedar camp
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 02-28-2020 - by Michael Foster

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	02-28-2020
Surveyor Name:	Michael Foster
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-19-2019 - by Everett Amburn

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-19-2019
Surveyor Name:	Everett Amburn
Camp Description:	We came in from Fishbowls and stayed at the upper site. The upper site is over grown with room for a few tents. The lower site is in great condition.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	A lot of water just not flowing quickly.
Weather Conditions:	Sunny, cloudy, 38-60 degrees

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 07-02-2019 - by Anonymous Surveyor

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	07-02-2019
Surveyor Name:	Anonymous Surveyor
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-22-2019 - by SespeJesse

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-22-2019
Surveyor Name:	SespeJesse
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-12-2019 - by Christopher P. Lord

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-12-2019
Surveyor Name:	Christopher P. Lord
Camp Description:	Stopped at the Main upper Camp: N34Â° 36' 58.3" W119Â° 10' 37.6" and the original Lower Camp:Â N34Â° 36' 53.7" W119Â° 10' 47.0" on my way through to descending the West Fork Piedra Blanca Creek. Both sites in fine condition and water flowing from the spring. I love the fact that the original site still has the rarely seen in wilderness areas picnic table. Unfortunately the old sign at the main camp has been removed and replaced with a new non mileage having more wilderness policy orientated sign. :( Gene marshall trail from the Sespe is in good shape and easy to follow up to Camp. Ticks are heavy in the grass encroaching on the trail past Twin Forks. If your interested in how the West Fork fared you can check out the link below.Â https://christopherplord.blogspot.com/2019/05/west-fork-piedra-blanca.html
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:
Images:	New sign at the Junction with Gene Marshall and Cedar Creek Trail Original Lower site Main upper site Picnic table at PML Ice Can stove at PML

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-08-2019 - by David Cairngorm

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-08-2019
Surveyor Name:	David Cairngorm
Camp Description:	My first time at PML. I was up here ten days ago, the same day as Tom Marshâ€™s report. We didnâ€™t meet but I suspect we were within 30 yards for 30 minutes. And I didnâ€™t actually reach PML. I was thrown by the new paper sign (see Christopher P. Lordâ€™s photo) which has the names on its front and back of the campsites in both directions. It doesnâ€™t mention PML at all, and that made me wonder if the campsite was right where I was standing. WRONG. My topo map told me to look further north, so I continued up the trail, crossing a slow-flowing creek. The side trail to PML wasnâ€™t where maps show it. So I went back to the paper sign, took a few steps uphill, found a couple of fire rings, and stopped for lunch. After lunch, as I set off for home I noticed a tent and a bench among the trees below the trail. That looks like the place Tom visited, and it's probably the â€œbetter camp established by horse packersâ€ mentioned on this page. TODAY: I should have hiked just a few yards further north. The side trail is around the bend from where itâ€™s mapped. Thereâ€™s a sign there (see photo) which is trying to tell you the Three Mile campsite is behind you and PML is in front of you. This takes you back over the low, slow creek, which is the only water I found around here. The â€œreliable springâ€ might be upstream from here, I dunno. On the east side of the campsite is a bone dry creekbed. You can hike up that creek, and youâ€™re on the little-used Cedar Creek Trail. It soon leaves the creek and crosses the North Fork creek, which is mostly dry with some stagnant pools, and then you make a 600â€™ climb to its highest point, where it crosses the ridge. The rock formations up there are worth the effort.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Low flow in the main creek. Creek running through the camp site is dry.
Weather Conditions:
Images:	Real PML Fake PML This is it!

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-20-2019 - by Tom Marsh

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-20-2019
Surveyor Name:	Tom Marsh
Camp Description:	Good amount of water in the area. You do need to pick your spots as the conditions go from flowing to stagnant. Not as much water as you would expect from a wet winter.Â
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Water is flowing almost at a trickle
Weather Conditions:
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-14-2018 - by Christopher P. Lord

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-14-2018
Surveyor Name:	Christopher P. Lord
Camp Description:	Water was available near the eastern site off Cedar Creek trail. Camp was nice and in good shape. The sign appears to be on its last leg but was still hanging. The Piedra Blanca Trail from Rose valley is well maintained and easy to follow. With some overgrowth and poison oak at the creek crossings after leaving Twin Forks and Piedra Blanca. Sunday afternoon I had the camp all to myself. http://christopherplord.blogspot.com/2018/10/piedra-blanca-from-rose-valley.html
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:	Sunny clear sky's temps in the 70's
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 09-29-2018 - by Jurij Solovij

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	09-29-2018
Surveyor Name:	Jurij Solovij
Camp Description:	approx. 100 yds along trail north of Pine Mtn Lodge camp, is a large clearing on right side, adjacent to 'spring'/creek - water is easily accessible in clean, cool water pools - with water running between pools. Pine Mtn Lodge camp (and directly adjacent camps) is in good condition.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	given the drought conditions, I'll call this 'flowing'
Weather Conditions:	sunny and High 80's F

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-26-2018 - by Bardley

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-26-2018
Surveyor Name:	Bardley
Camp Description:	was surprised to find the signed camp empty of campers on this memorial day weekend between noon and 3:00pm.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:	cloudless. cool - low 60s?

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-24-2017 - by Jason Samuels

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-24-2017
Surveyor Name:	Jason Samuels
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-21-2017 - by Chris Pechous

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-21-2017
Surveyor Name:	Chris Pechous
Camp Description:	Passed through, and camp was in good shape. Water was available.Â
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Trickle, but into a larger pool of water.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-11-2017 - by Anonymous Surveyor

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-11-2017
Surveyor Name:	Anonymous Surveyor
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Only slightly skuzzy, slow trickle.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 09-16-2017 - by Chris Pechous

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	09-16-2017
Surveyor Name:	Chris Pechous
Camp Description:	Stayed here on 9/16 after starting from the Howard Creek Trail Head, taking the Nordhoff Ridge to the Piedra Blanca Trailhead and then hopping on the Piedra Blanca Trail. The creek at PML was pretty full and had a very slow trickle, from rain the past few weeks. Easy to dip and sip (of course with a filter). Temps easily dropped into the low 40s.Â
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 07-24-2017 - by Erico

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	07-24-2017
Surveyor Name:	Erico
Camp Description:	Pools were still during the day, but the next morning, there were ripples from higher pools to lower. The spring is still producing drinkable water, but must filter due to bugs and bits. Trail from Rose Valley to Pine Mountain was empty, no other people anywhere. Only 3 cars in the Rose Valley parking lot. Pine Mountain camp was clean, several good fire rings and stands for setting your stove on.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	A few pools of 100 gallons or so each. Drinkable.
Weather Conditions:	Hot, No air flow.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-29-2017 - by larry frassoldati

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-29-2017
Surveyor Name:	larry frassoldati
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-26-2017 - by Craig R. Carey

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-26-2017
Surveyor Name:	Craig R. Carey
Camp Description:	As part of of their 8-day trek across the Sespe Wilderness, Troop 111 (Ventura) spent their second night at Beartrap on Monday 6/26/2017. Warm and a quite buggy, but camp is in good shape and still enough water ... but noticeably lower than other camps along the trail.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Enough water to filter, but getting low
Weather Conditions:	Hot. Buggy. Did we mention hot?
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-24-2017 - by bardley

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-24-2017
Surveyor Name:	bardley
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	like the man said, more than a trickle ....
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-22-2017 - by S. Sampson

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-22-2017
Surveyor Name:	S. Sampson
Camp Description:	A quick overnight from the Piedra Blanca Trailhead. There was plenty of water until you reach the last mile or so before camp. Watch out for widowmaker branches at this campsite. Good water right when you get to the campsite (I used my coffee mug to fill up my water filter bags as the water was not deep enough). Farther down at the "real" PML the water is stagnant.Â
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	2-3 inches deep, not a strong flow but better than a trickle
Weather Conditions:
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 02-13-2017 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	02-13-2017
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Survey by Bardley of Ojai. Plenty of water, lots of ladybugs, snow along north slopes and in the shade.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:
Images:	PML, photo Bardley of Ojai

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-06-2016 - by James Wapotich

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-06-2016
Surveyor Name:	James Wapotich
Camp Description:	Just barely are trickle at Pine Mountain Lodge, however, by continuing upstream towards the spring there is a flowing water and nice little pool of clear water. Currently at the off trail site with the picnic table and ice can stove, there is just standing pools of water.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
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Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-30-2016 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-30-2016
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Recent article by Dan McCaslin: https://www.noozhawk.com/article/dan_mccaslin_pine_mountain_lodge_via_twin_forks
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-17-2016 - by Eldon Walker

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-17-2016
Surveyor Name:	Eldon Walker
Camp Description:	Surprised by the very usable pool of water at Pine Mountain Lodge camp. Hiked from Piedra Blanca trailhead the morning after some much needed rain in mercifully cool conditions.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Very usable pool of water at the entrance to Pine Mountain Lodge camp.
Weather Conditions:
Images:	Water at PIne Mountain Lodge Camp, 10-17-2016.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 09-10-2016 - by M Subbotin

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	09-10-2016
Surveyor Name:	M Subbotin
Camp Description:	trail crossing into camp is dry, but shallow 3" deep pool just above; Â trickle of water and deeper pools upstream 100 yds. Gene Marshall/Piedra Blanca trail is closed between Pine Mountain Lodge and Upper Reyes due to Pine Fire closure
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:	sunny and clear, mid 70's
Images:	trickle flow about 100 yds above camp

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 08-22-2016 - by Ken Wickersham

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	08-22-2016
Surveyor Name:	Ken Wickersham
Camp Description:	I plugged up my filter with this water. Not enough shade here.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Low flow. Needs filtering.
Weather Conditions:	Hot and dry.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 06-16-2016 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	06-16-2016
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-28-2016 - by Philip E. Ankrom

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-28-2016
Surveyor Name:	Philip E. Ankrom
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	I saw no movement. Had to clear the surface to dip out water. The Sawyer filter worked well.
Weather Conditions:	Mid-40's in the morning.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-02-2016 - by Yellow Mantis

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-02-2016
Surveyor Name:	Yellow Mantis
Camp Description:	water was moving but very shallow, plenty to fill up water bottles with (if you dig out the bottom of the stream bed enough)
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	shallow moving water
Weather Conditions:	scattered sprinkles, cold at nigth
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-23-2016 - by Scott Williams

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-23-2016
Surveyor Name:	Scott Williams
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	The creek is at a very low flow, almost at a trickle. Pools are full. Some pools are stagnant below the camp.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 03-28-2016 - by Shaddus Maximus

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	03-28-2016
Surveyor Name:	Shaddus Maximus
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 01-30-2016 - by Howard Cohen

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	01-30-2016
Surveyor Name:	Howard Cohen
Camp Description:	Plenty of water for overnight camping or just passing through on an adventure run
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Flow is slow but you can water up near camp or in small puddles on the trail heading back to Piedra Blanca
Weather Conditions:	50-60s and windy

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 01-02-2016 - by Michael S

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	01-02-2016
Surveyor Name:	Michael S
Camp Description:	Stagnant, frozen over pools near camp. Didn't spend a lot of time to check out the rest of the creek in the area. Windy and cold at 2:45 in the afternoon. Decided not to spend the night and dropped back down to Piedra Blanca Camp instead. Much warmer down there and protected from the wind. Lots of bear tracks and a few mountain lion tracks in the snow below camp.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:	Chilly and Windy

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-09-2015 - by P. Schou

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-09-2015
Surveyor Name:	P. Schou
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Lots of slow moving water
Weather Conditions:	Daytime: 58, night:38

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 08-13-2015 - by Yamato

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	08-13-2015
Surveyor Name:	Yamato
Camp Description:	Kinda of tricky to find it coming from Piedra Blanca. It's appears dry but if you can find the "Pine Mountain Lodge" campground sign you, the water will be right there. We purified the stagnant water when we arrived around 6pm.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	It trickled in the morning/earlyafternoon then becomes stagnant in the evening.
Weather Conditions:	Summer hot

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-22-2015 - by Philip Ankrom

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-22-2015
Surveyor Name:	Philip Ankrom
Camp Description:	I saw no picknick table as seen in pictures just one wood board Â across some rocks.Â
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Water tasted good after going through a Sawyer filter
Weather Conditions:	under 40 deg in the morning with a cold wind on the 23rd. Lots of bear scat and prints after leaving camp heading towards the Fish Bowls.

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-16-2015 - by Jeremiah Swider

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-16-2015
Surveyor Name:	Jeremiah Swider
Camp Description:	Lot of trash and fallen over trees. Â Not much space for camping but a small group would manage fine. Â Two fire rings
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	very small stream in the reeds nearby
Weather Conditions:	very foggy
Images:	fire ring

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-09-2015 - by Arnold Levin

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-09-2015
Surveyor Name:	Arnold Levin
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	Limited Water- 2 days after rain not as plentiful as Beartrap Creek
Weather Conditions:	Sunny and Warm-upper 60's
Images:	Trail Sign you see coming from the West leading into camp

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 02-14-2015 - by Aaron and Tom Songer

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	02-14-2015
Surveyor Name:	Aaron and Tom Songer
Camp Description:	Campground was nice. It had four fire rings and plenty of fire wood that can be gathered from two fallen trees in the camp. We camped here our second night before heading down to Piedra Blanca Trailhead. The spring nearby had water. Nighttime temperatures got down to 28 degrees. The easternmost tributary to the main Piedra Blanca Creek had a light flow and so did the start of the North Fork Piedra Blanca Creek.Â We were unable to locate the original campsite with the picnic table and stove, which was a bit frustrating; we knew it was along the Cedar Creek Trail, but we must have not gone far enough. I am curious to know if the original campsite is still there because when we got there, there was a stove sitting next to a tree at the entrance to the main camp like it had been taken from the original site; you can see that there is/was a stove at the original campsite in a survey photo taken by M. Jones. There is also a place to sit next to the first fire ring in the main camp that was made from a piece of an old bench which could be from the bench that is/was at the original site. (see photos). If anyone has information on this, please let me know.
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	clear water with light flow
Weather Conditions:	low 60s (day) and low 30s (night)
Images:	Pine Mountain Lodge Campground (see stove, and sitting area made from old bench)

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 01-22-2015 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	01-22-2015
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 11-16-2014 - by John Spiegel

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	11-16-2014
Surveyor Name:	John Spiegel
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	The water was flowing, but just barely. It quickly disappeared south of camp.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-29-2014 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-29-2014
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Information per Bardley of the Ojai: "There was slooow filling, shallow pools at entrance to pml camp.Â nothing elsewhere."
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-01-2014 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-01-2014
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Water was available at the Upper Camp.
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 08-04-2014 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	08-04-2014
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:	There was water above the upper camp but nothing more than a trickle.
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 05-24-2014 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	05-24-2014
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Two groups were staying at Pine Mtn Lodge. Information gathered by James Wapotich while on a VWR Patrol. Â You can follow James on his blog:Â http://songsofthewilderness.wordpress.com/
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Water flowing at both camp locations
Weather Conditions:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 01-10-2014 - by M. Jones

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	01-10-2014
Surveyor Name:	M. Jones
Camp Description:	No water in East Fork Piedra Blanca creek 1/2 mile past Twin Fork Camp
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:	Good water in creek near Pine Mountain Lodge camp site
Weather Conditions:	75 & Sunny
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 04-15-2010 - by Bryan Conant

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	04-15-2010
Surveyor Name:	Bryan Conant
Camp Description:	Snowy and cold, but very beautiful!
Water Source:	Flowing
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 01-01-2010 - by Los Padres Forest Association

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	01-01-2010
Surveyor Name:	Los Padres Forest Association
Camp Description:	Nice old photo of the cabin at Pine Mtn Lodge, circa a 1910 Ojai tourist brochure.Â Enjoy.....
Water Source:	Trickle
Water Source Details:
Weather Conditions:
Images:

Pine Mountain Lodge Camp Survey - 10-8-2021 - by Adam Donald

Link:	Pine Mountain Lodge Camp
Date:	10-8-2021
Surveyor Name:	Adam Donald
Camp Description:	Lots of yellow jackets in the camp
Water Source:	Stagnant
Water Source Details:	Very little water
Weather Conditions:

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